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Since Microsoft now supports Android apps, you can expect ungoogled android to become more popular since more apps would be written which dont need play store


I hope so, but at the same time, which app developer is going to target compatibility with the windows desktop when writing an app?

Also, how will/do apps that depend on Google Services work (or not)? Is there some shim or something?


Doesn't the Microsoft Android support require an Amazon account, though?


yes and no. first of all: which services does Amazon provide that would make an app dependent on them in the same way it might be on Google services? does Amazon have its own system for push notifications? for weather data? for syncing contacts? secondly: it has been confirmed that Android apps will be able to be sideloaded. a Microsoft employee tweeted about it but I can't really find the post right now


> does Amazon have its own system for push notifications?

Yes, but only for Amazon (Fire) devices. Amazon Device Messaging handles push notifications to Amazon devices:

https://developer.amazon.com/docs/adm/faq-adm.html

Microsoft might implement Amazon Device Messaging in Windows 11.

> secondly: it has been confirmed that Android apps will be able to be sideloaded. a Microsoft employee tweeted about it but I can't really find the post right now

Here: https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/22550689/windows-11-andro...


That's not honest. Wireguard on Linux is really hard to install. I managed to install the "server" side after a lot of huff and puff but I've given up on the "client" side. On windows, the "client" side really is as easy as you say though. It's LOVELY


You'll have to say more about the challenges you found with it, because we do a _lot_ of WireGuard here, in a bunch of different ways, and given a valid `wg0.conf` file (which is just the keys and the addresses for the tunnel), I've never hd to do much more than `wg-quick up wg0.conf` to make it work, on our servers, on my NUC, on Amazon Linux EC2 instances, and on VMs.


> and given a valid `wg0.conf`

And there it is. Idk about OP but this is what tripped me up. There are many guides online, but the native documentation assumes you have a pretty deep understanding of the network stack, authentication, and VPNs.

The online guides all kinda make assumptions about your network set up and if it’s different in anyway your attempt will fail and you won’t know why; as the error codes are kinda generic and somewhat meaningless to someone without in-depth networking experience.


But the `wg0.conf` thingy has to be set up on Windows too, right? So It's not clear why it would be easier on Windows than on Linux.

As far as I'm concerned, the most difficult thing I've encountered with Wireguard wasn't related to WG itself but to the fact that I'd set it up on three different systems, each with its own configuration style for bringing up the network.

Ubuntu server - netplan

Arch server - systemd-networkd (directly)

Arch "desktop" - NetworkManager


The client on Windows might be easier to use, again, I’m not the OP. I had trouble with it in general both on Windows and Linux.


The networking part especially may require some work.

There can be many environments and situations, and sometimes a component would block packets to be forwarded from one network or user to another.

You need to know a bit about networking to debug it.


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