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> Its not your responsibility to ensure transitive importers of your library are on the latest version of Go. Don't make that decision for them.

and yet the Go maintainers did not include or build (in the future) a tool that determined the minimum version of Go that your application can be compiled in.


I mean, kind of, but they're able to be cached easily and inexpensively in a way that kind of defies the intrinsic values behind steganography.

Not cache-able if no one has seen them before.

I'd like to adjust your metaphor.

As a woodworker who owns both hand tools and power tools, I don't feel bad when I spend most of a project cutting the repetitive pieces with a motorized saw. I also don't feel like a snob because I prefer certain hand saws under certain circumstances.

To me, the metaphor is pretty solid for coding LLMs. A motorized saw, to anyone that's used them, takes away all the pain and complexity of using a hand saw for the same work, but it also introduces its own complexity and pain. There's also things that stay consistent: I still find myself transferring or measuring certain ways, I still have to brace the piece, I still need jigs (albeit different ones).


> I have not really found anything that shakes these people down to their core. Any argument or example is handwaved away by claims that better use of agents or advanced models will solve these “temporary” setbacks. How do you crack them? Especially upper management.

You let them play out. Shift-left was similar to this and ultimately ended in part disaster, part non-accomplishment, and part success. Some percentage of the industry walked away from shift-left greatly more capable than the rest, a larger chunk left the industry entirely, and some people never changed. The same thing will likely happen here. We'll learn a lot of lessons, the Overton window will shift, the world will be different, and it will move on. We'll have new problems and topics to deal with as AI and how to use it shifts away from being a primary topic.


Shift left?

Edit: I've googled it and I can't find anything relevant. I've been working in software for 20+ years and read a myriad things and it's the first time I hear about it...



"Shift-left" was a general term that occurred in the systems engineering / devops space – I'm not surprised to see it used in a security context now. More or less, about a decade ago most systems engineers were recruited into the industry without any application software engineering skills and that became a drag on organizations trying to scale. It was about moving testing, devops, security, etc into the software engineering role and attempting to consolidate systems engineering into SWE roles. It was a part of the larger "devops movement".

I've heard a ton of times about "designing/planning for quality and security from the start", I guess it can't hurt to also have a buzzword for it.

Shift-left was a disaster? A large number of my day to day problems at work could be described as failing to shift-left even in the face of overwhelmingly obvious benefits

Caveat that Kagi gates that repo such that it doesn't allow self-submissions so you're only going to see a chunk of websites that other people have submitted that also know about the Kagi repo.

But per the instructions, it seems like that if one wants to add your own website, then one needs to add 2 other small websites (that are not on the list already)...so technically it does open things up to those who are not aware of the repo...assuming their site is pulled in when someone wants to add their own website. Obviously this scale is slow...but i think that's kinda the point, eh? Nevertheless, for every 1 person wanting to add their stuff, 2 others would technically get added i guess.

See: https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb?tab=readme-ov-file#%E...


Yeah I’ve added my own site along with 3 others and the PR was merged in an hour.

Honestly the hard part was that a lot of the sites I wanted to submit were already there!


Thanks for the info!

If anyone wants to join up and add our sites together, here's mine:

https://yesteryearforever.xyz/


I find it amusing that your last comment is preaching to someone about what politics is and isn't.

Your politics are clear. You have no problem with the modern Republican party embracing authoritarianism and fascism. In fact, you see it as an opportunity to erode trust in or otherwise destroy the institution responsible for regulating signals in the US. The very thing that makes it so that planes can safely fly or that things in space must respect terrestrial networks without disruption.

That is your politics, just an embarrassing set of politics. Not even a green account. Shame on you.


So... to be clear... you dont want to get rid of the FCC? You can have that position but you are kinda missing the point here.

I was responding to someone who is claiming that the org is some infringement on free speech. This is an ignorant position, in that the FCC has had the power to regulate airwaves for quite some time. So if it is some free speech infringment now, then it was infringement a long time ago, especially with things like the fairness doctrine.

But you can have either position. Either you think it is all some huge infringement of free speech or you don't and you cant really complain about the stuff happening now. Your choice.

> The very thing that makes it so that planes can safely fly

So... Imagine for the sake of argument that you were capable of steel manning my position.

When someone brought speech related stuff regarding the FCC and I responded to it, did you actually believe I was talking about laws related to airplane communications?

Or.... was it possible that I was only referring to other speech related stuff that the FCC does? Just steelman it for a second if you are capable of doing so.


I've been building https://lan.events. It's been built entirely with an LLM as I've been learning more concepts behind agentic engineering for reliable development with an LLM. The primary reason I built it is because LANs are disappearing and they were a formative part of my childhood. They were a way to connect with people that I knew from all over the world. I still have some lasting friendships from the big and small LANs I went to as a kid. LANs are free for 50 and under so please sign up and if you have feedback, send it through the support system!


I love the idea and am working on something similar around getting more IRL events out in the world with https://onthe.town

I do wonder if the problem is not so much having a place to find LAN events but actually just having enough people put on LAN events in the first place. It feels like a thing of the past with how much less people interact in person these days. It's a shame because LANs are awesome!

Have you thought about ways to make it easier for people to host LAN events? Or does this solve that as well? I guess a solution would require matching random people together. Happy to discuss more - nick at onthe.town


Hello! I'll shoot you an email. Maybe we can mob on this problemscape together.

> I do wonder if the problem is not so much having a place to find LAN events but actually just having enough people put on LAN events in the first place.

Sort of! I did a lot of research on this before I built lan.events. There are more gamers than ever, but LANs dropped off during COVID lockdowns despite surveys showing an increasing interest in in-person events. More or less, it's actually a venue problem. Running events has incredibly thin and risky margins for something that by its very nature needs to be planned out months in advance. Everything around the events are becoming prohibitively expensive: venues, vendors, equipment rentals, etc are all eating away at the ceiling gamers will pay and the floor that organizations can charge from.

LAN.events helps tackle this by decreasing the cost per ticket and shifting that cost to the customer rather than the event manager. We don't introduce minimum event costs or percentage based pricing which lets event managers keep or give back more profits. There is more I can do in this space, but that's the biggest way I can contribute right now.



I use something similar to Tauri called Wails: https://wails.io/ that's Go-based.


Looks cool, but the phrase 'build applications with the flexibility and power of go' made me chuckle. Least damn flexible language in this whole space.


It's entirely on us as citizens to leaving them as pet peeves instead of crafting them into strategic law that makes them not only illegal but shunned. A little bit of structure goes a long way here.


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