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I don't get this:

> I live in New York City," she said. "That doesn't go a long way.

So you live in one of the most expensive cities in the world, and then complain when you aren't making enough to live in said city. Either quit the low paying position and find a better paying job or move to somewhere cheaper.



I agree with personal responsibility here. But I don't think that negates critiques about living wages, especially from a self-billed progressive organization.

It looks like some positions are required in person - does anyone work there on HN? There is only one NY specific list on their jobs page right now that says remote/NY, but a lot others list specific cities, like San Fran which is expensive too - they say "San Francisco (remote for now)"

I think this combo of Stimi, lack of/expensive childcare, and new automatic child support payments, has forced the debate on where the baseline of a living wage is.

We're pushing past $15 minimum for even Burger King in some places right now. But employers are logically still loathe to pay more, they would rather pay signup bonus' than higher wages.

If wages outpace inflation I'm all for it.


Presumably that means they have offices in New York. If that's the case, they should pay a livable wage for people living in that city.


Capitalists vastly overestimate the mobility of labor. Maybe she has reasons keeping her there that are none of your business. The "just move" or "just get a better job" refrain is hopelessly ignorant.


I couldn't disagree more with that statement. Mostly everyone I know from close family and friends have moved out of the bay area as its too expensive in the past 3 years. I also moved and me and my Wife are in tech and make great money, alot of the people I know are not in that situation. We all left as cost of living is stupidly high and I don't want to spend every penny I make on housing and other high costs that only exist there. Everyone is free to make their own choices of where to live and work and live with those consequences.


So your position is that people who want a mission-driven job, and are willing to accept lower pay because they believe in the work... do not deserve to live in NYC? They should either give up their passions, or move away from their lives, possibly away from their friends and family?

Harsh.


I don't think moving to a different area is something easy to do as a person generally. (May be necessary, but still a hard and painful decision.) Maybe the person, even with all the city's faults, still have some affection towards her NYC neighborhood. She might have some friends important to her in the area that she doesn't want to be apart. Why should we assume the person would want to leave in the cold calculation of money and capital, ripping her off from what invaluable relationships she had in the area? People are not atomized rational machines hyper-optimizing for cost, they are in close relationship to the surrounding world and feel a sense of agency for being in such a relationship. And sometimes people will stay in their area even if the economic conditions aren't optimal, because they have something even more important to lose by moving away.


So? NYC is wonderful, yes.

Do we need to subsidize New Yorker's luxury lifestyles? Will New Yorkers subsidize everyone else's plane tickets to get to NYC, and expenses during the visit?


Presumably she works at Change.org's New York office, and therefore lives in New York.




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