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Ah, here it is, the clueless/idiotic comment about the CCC being left that is guaranteed to show up every year on HN.


You may want to look up the CCC‘s founding history.


Was there not some rather dramatic change in the leadership in the last ~5 years?

Admittedly it's very murky to see how it's organized and run..


Utter bullshit.

They are somewhat leftist, but certainly not communist. Do you know what communist means or are you just using at as an insult?


No. You are talking utter bullshit.

The founder of my local maker space was an actual communist party member so yes I know what it means. He was not the only one and I have no doubt other maker spaces with close CCC ties will be similar. Somewhat leftist is the understatement of the year.

Personally I have absolutely no problem with a persons political beliefs so that is not an insult. I have a problem with fascism. If I believe something different I should not be penalized or viewed as a threat.

I am not a fan of the CCC or their organization and will continue to share my experiences of them with others.


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Isn’t anarchism typically aligned with libertarian views?


They are a lot more compatible than people like to admit.

Both have a strong ethos towards promoting individual liberty, and generally agree somewhat on the approach that an individuals rights have a “limit” when they infringe on the rights of another person.

The main difference seems to be that a lot of libertarians take a strictly individualistic approach, whereas anarchists tend to prefer a mutualism approach.

Honestly, if you explain both in neutral terms to someone, they sound almost the same with minor differences.


Funny. Have you tried crack? Discussing maker spaces will be further down your priority list if you do.

German maker spaces are not nice for people with different views i.e. not left wing.

Simply not true.


I know a lot of people who couldn’t be described as leftists in the German makerspace scene, even in the CCC itself.

If you are rabidly right wing (AfD, for example), then yes you will be shunned. But if you are a normal decent person you will be fine.


The CCC being political and left-wing is a feature and not a bug.




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