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In preview, can't be used in production, they already rug-pulled people building on Gemini w/r/t cost and RPM, and they're pointedly not putting any RPM or cost on the page. (seriously, try finding info on cost, RPM, or release right now, you're linked in circles.)

Agree on OpenAI multimodal but it's sort of a stilted example itself, it's because OpenAI has a hole in its lineup - ex. Claude Haiku is multimodal, faster, and significantly cheaper than GPT 3.5.



> they're pointedly not putting any RPM or cost on the page

360 RPM base limit, pricing is posted.

> seriously, try finding info on cost, RPM, or release right now,

I wasn't making up numbers, its on their Gemini API pricing page: https://ai.google.dev/pricing


Nice, thanks (btw, I didn't think you were making it up, it was in the keynote!)


+1 on Haiku being oft overlooked.


Shows the power of the brand and the limit of names consumers will recall long term

"Who are the biggest soda or potato chip makers?"


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Can you explain this comment further? I don't really understand your point here.


Given the one comment, I wouldn't draw too many conclusions re: Anthropic.* SNR ratio on AI everywhere is low-ish, and optimizing for a low cost multimodal model is a business-directed need that's rather niche currently.

* I was very pleasantly surprised to see it ranking as high as #4, and its still top #50, in App Store.


1. Not an AI specific comment series, it applies generally

2. Comments like yours are against the guidelines of HN

3. You don't know what I do and are incorrect in your assessment of my work and experience (another common HN mishap)

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(re: #2/3) Please make your substantive points without crossing into personal attack.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


What do you mean?

A) This fills a gaping hole for cheap multimodal models, OpenAI doesn't have one

B) Anthropic's Haiku is a good choice.

You) wow A didn't know Anthropic. Goes to show power of brands, much like snack foods

B) Eh I wouldn't conclude anything from A. Its one comment. some people don't know what an Anthropic is because there's high interest in AI relative to interest in AI APIs. you can expect a low SNR ratio, even on HN

You) Stop personally attacking me! It's against the rules!!


> You) Stop personally attacking me! It's against the rules!!

Your comment history certainly shows a disregard for the HN guidelines

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I don't think its helpful to broaden the aspersions: you had a couple hours to cool off, and also got signal from the community that you went overboard.

It's clear I was talking to you, not about you, you can tell because it's a reply to you.

I do understand it would feel awful if I replied to you, ignoring you, and instead voicing to some anon 3rd person you don't know Anthropic pricing. Someone with looking to bully could possibly use that to say you are an amateur who doesn't know what you're talking about w.r.t to AI and only knows a brand name or two.

If anyone does that, let me know, I'll correct their bullying...pulls on sunglasses...with extreme prejudice.


> signal from the community that you went overboard.

What signal are you referring to?

That you and one other person are making low brow comments that do not enhance the conversation?


> What signal are you referring to?

1. The comment where you began getting upset and attacking people is grayed out, the only one in this thread.

2. The other person straightforwardly explaining to you I was replying to you, not talking about you. (which, I do understand why you're taking personally, but humbly, it isn't a rule violation or close, or "low-brow", it's well within bounds of adult conversation)

3. Me agreeing the reply was a reply, I don't know you or judge you, and if anyone does, I gave a nice playful comment telling you I'd fight for your honor.

I humbly suggest taking a step back from this thread: it can be incredibly frustrating when you feel you were wronged and no one is listening, I feel ya. I tried giving you an e-hug without being condescending with the sunglasses comment. We both agree its outside the bounds of HN to continue this. Yell at me on Twitter for being sneaky and lying and saying you're bad at AI and making low-brow comments, @jpohhhh.




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