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Two years with Kagi, sometimes go months without using Google. Stay pure.

Kagi plus a few good LLMs (I use local ones via ollama because I do that, and also Claude sometimes) gives you research capabilities that are as good as the pre-enshittification Internet and often better. I use LLMs like brainstorming partners and research assistants and then use Kagi to search for real data to verify results and make sure the LLMs aren't hallucinating.

Going back to Google I'm sometimes shocked at how absolute trash it is. I'm sure they're maximizing their internal KPIs.

Of course I know the real problem with Google is that I'm not the customer.



Two years with Kagi, I never visit Google once.

When I install Linux on a new computer, I install Firefox from its package manager, log in with Firefox Sync, and this switches my default search engine to Kagi. So I never once visit Google, not even to download Firefox.

I just tried going to Google, and it is simultaneously satisfying and saddening to be met with a cookie disclaimer pop-up: Saddening because I'm reminded that ubiquitous search access comes at the cost of tracking, and satisfying because I never once visited Google on this one-year old computer (after which the pop-up disappears).


Just be aware that Google runs a lot of other integral services that hoover up data anyway and are practically unavoidable for modern life. For example, I blocked all domains including google and I was then unable to use local rent listing websites, unable to comment on forums, and unable to browse university research publication lists, because they were captcha blocked. In fact one of the only upsides of Apps I see is that they tend to avoid captchas.

They fail in a nasty way too - nobody expects you to block them - so you'll simply see blank pages, etc. Likewise for Firebase which it seems 40% of startups use.


>search access comes at the cost of tracking

don't you have your identity (through payments) tied with every search query you make when using kagi?


Yes, but I trust them.

Specifically, I trust the CEO and founder.

If I didn’t trust anyone, I’d visit DuckDuckGo using uBlock Origin via a Mullvad VPN paid for with coinjoined crypto.


They'd have to show a cookie banner if they tracked you, so, unless they're breaking the law, no.


Which Linux distributions are you installing on a new computer that doesn't come with Firefox installed already?


Not OP but Raspbian afaik is one such distro.


Default NixOS using the graphical installer.


When I accidentally use Google I’m instantly surprised and delirious. The difference in both search quality and advertisements is astounding.

Been using Kagi since its beta and I’ve never used Google intentionally since.




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