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Looks like you are just a racist trying to pin things on black people.

Mr. Racist, here's a little fact check from chatGPT. You are still blaming people for their skin color - have some shame.

1. No "2013 airframe scandal" like that exists.

Boeing has had multiple controversies (e.g. outsourcing of 787 Dreamliner parts, later the 737 MAX crisis), but none that match this story.

In the 2000s and early 2010s, Boeing did face production quality problems with the 787 Dreamliner because large parts of the aircraft were outsourced globally, and some suppliers had issues meeting specifications. But this was not tied to race or prison labor in the way described.

2. No evidence of a race-based relocation of factories.

Boeing has moved or opened facilities (e.g. in South Carolina) for business, tax, and labor reasons. There is no credible reporting that this was to "give jobs to Black people" or to people leaving prison.

The claim sounds like a distortion of real events: Boeing did use suppliers in different regions, including some that hired less-skilled labor, but this was a cost and logistics decision.

3. About the “manual etching defects.”

Real reports do exist about manufacturing defects: gaps, shimming issues, and mis-drilled holes have been found in some Boeing fuselages, particularly in the 787. These were documented by whistleblowers and investigations.

But they were not due to "manual etching by ex-prisoners"; they came from industrial quality-control failures and supplier/manufacturer mismanagement.

4. Decision to “keep defective parts.”

There have indeed been allegations that Boeing sometimes tolerated defects to keep production on schedule. This is a legitimate criticism, but again, it has nothing to do with the story in the text you shared about racial hiring or prisons.



It's not really worth replying to racists, but I can't trust a ChatGPT rebuttal to be anything resembling factually correct. In future, I'd advise pointing out the bigotry, rebutting the things you know to be false, and then ending the comment there.


I think this is the wrong method to deal with racist people. You’re talking to someone while criticizing the other and hoping the message will be read, this can be construed as passive-aggressive.

More importantly, by aiming for a strict exclusion, you make it into a us-or-them stake. Without discussion, they’ll just have to get rid of you, or you of them, but no entendre is possible. In this day and age, I think we should rather listen to each other and try to work on a centrist solution rather than leading to the current situation, which we’re all paying.

By being closed-minded, you miss informing yourself about racism prevention. By doing this, you do not try to resolve the problems, but create your own opponent.

Fourth, it may very well happen that GP became racist after a rape, for example. By segregating victims, you help criminals reproduce the crimes. As a matter of fact, if you chose racism, like the one made by your political leaders when they used race in their criteria to filter the location of the jobs, to derive the strategy of Boeing, and it mades planes crashes, and you cover it up with your accusations, it makes more planes crash.




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