> Okay, but, that was like 15 years ago, on some shitty first-run computers that no one bought.
I wouldn't call the first Microsoft Surface, Surface 2, Dell XPS 10, and Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 11 products that no one bought.
> I've never met a single person that owned, or has ever used, a Windows RT device.
I have and I also regrettably bought one myself.
> Dwelling on the past isn't going to move us forward.
The past dictates the future, and history repeats itself. Microsoft made their intentions known, it would be foolish to pretend they haven't. They continue to make their intentions known today with the Pluton cryptographic co-processor, that paired with a TPM, can enforce remote attestation by design. That is literally the intent of the Pluton chip: ensuring platform integrity and securely attesting to 3rd parties that your system is Blessed/trusted.
> Anyone pushing the "Secure Boot and TPM are evil" trope in 2025 is objectively a fool and should be ignored
Anyone tearing down this strawman is tilting at windmills for some reason.
> Most don't even realize what a TPM does, they think it's some secret chip inserted by glowies into their computers to prevent them from running free software.
I wouldn't project ignorance on those you don't actually know. You can understand what a TPM does, understand how it can be abused today and acknowledge how it was abused in the past.
I wouldn't call the first Microsoft Surface, Surface 2, Dell XPS 10, and Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 11 products that no one bought.
> I've never met a single person that owned, or has ever used, a Windows RT device.
I have and I also regrettably bought one myself.
> Dwelling on the past isn't going to move us forward.
The past dictates the future, and history repeats itself. Microsoft made their intentions known, it would be foolish to pretend they haven't. They continue to make their intentions known today with the Pluton cryptographic co-processor, that paired with a TPM, can enforce remote attestation by design. That is literally the intent of the Pluton chip: ensuring platform integrity and securely attesting to 3rd parties that your system is Blessed/trusted.
> Anyone pushing the "Secure Boot and TPM are evil" trope in 2025 is objectively a fool and should be ignored
Anyone tearing down this strawman is tilting at windmills for some reason.
> Most don't even realize what a TPM does, they think it's some secret chip inserted by glowies into their computers to prevent them from running free software.
I wouldn't project ignorance on those you don't actually know. You can understand what a TPM does, understand how it can be abused today and acknowledge how it was abused in the past.