tldr; DHH is a controversial figure, and Framework are latching onto Omarchy. I think some folks think that Framework's image is being tarnished by working with DHH.
It really is so sad to see people get sucked into the alt-right pipeline and not even realize it despite it being so obvious from the outside that it's happening. For all his talk on indoctrination it's weird to suddenly have very specific opinions on a bunch of unrelated topics you have no personal involvement in, no expertise in, and tangible connection to. Even if you have feeling about some of these issues in passing no normal person with a dayjob becomes so prolific about all of them at once.
Except, of course, that despite these issues not moving the needle on basically anything in daily life they are all connected as part of a grand conspiracy corrupt society in some nonspecific way and must be eradicated. In a way I really can't blame any individual because there's very little in the way of defenses against it but it's sad to see the cocktail of intelligence, arrogance, and fame mean that no one will ever be successful at pulling him out.
Wait so how many degrees of separation do you have to be before you are ok? I mean fucking come on, this is ridiculous. DHH's blog entries are ugly, but are we really saying that valve shouldn't do business with a hardware company because they do business with one guy that says shitty things on a blog?
Any business larger than a certain size is gonna have a fan-out of hundreds if not thousands of business if you go 2 to 3 degrees of separation out. And they have to avoid any that have written mean blog posts?
I'm sure like 20-30% of open source software has contributions from assholes.
All chip manufacturers sell to military contractors and genocidal regimes. But valve should know not to do business with any chip manufacturers lol. Anyway
So not really an issue unless you are someone who makes politics your religion. Fortunately for Framework, outside of select US metropolitan areas, that isn't particularly prevalent.
How ironic, considering I’ve made a neutral comment to answer why someone is viewed as controversial, and I’m getting downvotes and people figuratively foaming at the mouth to defend someone who openly despises people different from him. If you want to see people who make politics their religion, look at the ones literally trying to ban non Christians from their country.
There is indeed a very loud wave of support for nazi and nazi supporting projects. You can see it in these comments and in the top thread on the topic:
1. Framework sent a laptop to DHH and sponsored his version of ruby conference, and promotes Omarchy, which DHH created, on social media. Also promoted hyprland.
2. Thread started, goes viral. People basically asking, "did you know DHH has some really weird and kinda gross blog posts dog whistling about how London isn't white anymore? Did you know there's hella transphobic joking going around in hyprland discord?"
3. Hyprland drama resolved when multiple users point out the main dev had a come to Jesus moment about their toxic community
4. Framework ceo Nirav makes a big post about how they're trying to create a "big tent" and push FOSS with this method.
5. Users point out that big tents with Nazis in it are just big Nazi tents (the Nazi bar issue, if you don't throw out the first Nazi that shows up to your bar, more will come, and normal customers will leave because nobody wants to be around Nazis, this, your bar is a Nazi bar now)
6. Predictably an ongoing fight about whether DHH is actually a fascist/ Nazi result in people saying things like "wait but I agree with him on the London thing," or worse, flagrant transphobia towards other users. This results in accusations against these users of they themselves being fascists or transphobes.
7. Some framework mod comes in to lay down the rules about how all other threads on this subject will be closed, this thread will be kept open in perpetuity and framework welcomes people to use it to criticize them or public figures or even organize a boycott if they want, however the mod requests people to not make transphobic comments or accuse other forum users of being fascists, as this will result in comment deletion. The ostensible goal: users attack public figures and not each other, and if a forum user vs forum user attack occurs, leaves it to the mods to deal with rather than everyone suddenly shouting "you're a transphobe! That's transphobic!" But the appearance: "we don't allow transphobes or anti-fascists here," or some other equivocation between being a transphobe/ fascist and being one who wants to point out that something is transphobic or fascist. I think it's a common pr "both sidesism" blunder community leaders make.
8. A shitstorm commences for a week. Silence from framework. Framework abandons most social media.
9. Framework's Linux community ambassadors relinquish their positions, citing Framework's silence on not being willing to say explicitly that they won't promote white supremacists/ fascists / DHH.
That's where we're at today. I learned a lot from the thread. I'm an obnoxious little anarchist that discovered that apparently a lot of people thought framework was going to save us from consumerist e waste capitalism and by betraying other progressive goals they also can't be trusted now for the other mission, and so all hope is lost and so now the only thing left to do is go back to buying products from companies that probably have child slavery in their supply chain. I also discovered that trying to do just a bit of progressivism means you must be perfect in every way or people will revert to default capitalism mode out of spite, basically a liberal form of leftist infighting that someone described to me as "treatlerism."
>Users point out that big tents with Nazis in it are just big Nazi tents (the Nazi bar issue, if you don't throw out the first Nazi that shows up to your bar, more will come, and normal customers will leave because nobody wants to be around Nazis, this, your bar is a Nazi bar now)
Yet they never point out big tents with Maoists and pedophiles are just big Marxist-pedo tents.
>Predictably an ongoing fight about whether DHH is actually a fascist/ Nazi result in people saying things like "wait but I agree with him on the London thing," or worse, flagrant transphobia towards other users. This results in accusations against these users of they themselves being fascists or transphobes.
There are also many openly Maoists/Marxist users with flagrant anti-White hatred and misandry.
>A shitstorm commences for a week. Silence from framework. Framework abandons most social media.
This is demonstrably false. Nirav responded and Framework has not abandoned any social media.
>Framework's Linux community ambassadors relinquish their positions, citing Framework's silence on not being willing to say explicitly that they won't promote white supremacists/ fascists / DHH.
A few far-left entryist political activists were told they can't use the platform to push Marxism, their religious beliefs, or anti-White/male hatred so they left. Good riddance.
Your account posts a lot about Marxists and pedophiles and Maoists. What led to these things being a primary concern of yours? Very rarely do I hear people talk about Maoists in 2025.
If you are concerned about pedophiles, the latest revelations about pedophilia at the top levels of government in the USA must be very concerning for you.
You'll find a lot open source leaders, and CEOs of companies like framework are not progressive, they are libertarian. Which people mistake as progressive because it's often very socially liberal.
Trying to pressure them won't do do anything, because goes against libertarian values to force collective values on individuals.
