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I assure you it's not a scam. We work with them heavily at Tech for Palestine. Will send over your feedback, thanks!

What would be helpful to assuage your fears? Would you like more technical info, or perhaps a description of the "biases" used?



Thank you for the candid reply, and I apologize for my hostile tone.

To be honest, I don't think there's anything you/they can do, other than heavily rebrand or shut the project down. I find the entire premise of a commercial product and company branding themselves in support of (or in opposition to) a political situation morally deplorable. It is taking advantage of a current conflict and people's political leanings for their own financial gain. It doesn't matter if the people behind it are directly involved in the conflict or not—it's a cheap marketing ploy.

It would be no different if the "Big Tech AI" companies they criticize promoted their products in support of Israel with Jewish-friendly branding. Biases are one thing, but basing your entire product on them is entirely different. It is tasteless regardless of which side does it.

This is the first I've heard of it, but your Tech for Palestine endeavour gives off similar vibes. I'm sure you mean well, but this is not the way to help people going through a difficult time.

But then again, I'm just a rando on the internet. Good luck.


I see. Well, let me explain what this is about.

AI models represent society, and society has significant biases against certain groups, which find their way into the AI. One of those groups is Palestinians. In fact, Israel is currently running an influence operation [1] to make AIs significantly pro-Israel (which means in many cases inserting an Israeli narrative to cover up their long history of Crimes Against Humanity against Palestine, including the current genocide, but also the apartheid in Occupied Palestine).

Existing AI companies have shown significant bias not just against Palestine, but against basic internationally understood principles of human rights, and indeed are cozying up to the US war machine in meaningful ways. Many people around the world do not trust any of these companies as a result.

Our Ethical tech alternatives, including https://thaura.ai, are built to provide an ecosystem of alternatives to the heavily-controlled tech companies, many of whom are directly complicit in the genocide in Gaza (eg Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Meta), and many of whom suppress pro-humanity narratives because of biases towards Israel (esp Meta, but also LinkedIn, Youtube, X).

Another example is https://upscrolled.com, which is an alternative to Instagram and X, against built on basic humanitarian principles (which IG and X do not adhere to).

Hope this helps!

[1] https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-chatgpt/




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