Ilya has appeared to shift to closer to Yann's position, though: he's been on the "scaling LLMs will fail to reach AGI" beat for a long time.
Yeah, the actual video with transcripts (YouTube link in bottom of TFA):
https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/ilya-sutskever-2
Ed: TFA is basically a dupe of
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46048125