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Who is the beneficiary from this?

I don't think its EU citizens, because:

    * roads will be damaged faster
    * risk of hitting and killing more people
    * because roads damaged more tax money spent on fixing them
    * more CO2
I think EU should go back to build good relationships with Russia, take its cheaper gas & energy and support its own economy, instead of propping up the US economy and opening the market for its ugly huge cars.

Just come to Amsterdam and see if you can drive those cars in the middle of Amsterdam. Even trams from 2 opposite direction share same line in some areas.





The EU was bending over backwards for Russia until they invaded a neighboring country for being too friendly to them. The fact that relationships aren't good there is entirely on Russia.

Build good relationships with Russia? That's a call to Russia, not the EU! First and foremost, Russia has to stop going to war with its neighbours. In any case, Europe doesn't need Russian gas for much longer.

You think EU should go back to building good relationships with Russia when there is an ongoing war of aggression started by them? If you really believe that and you're an EU citizen I can't help viewing you as traitorous to very foundational values the EU was created for. Absolutely disgusting.

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Every point you mentioned is just parroting the Russian narrative.

There's no such thing as "good trade relationships with Russia", as those that were there existed only thanks to planted agents like Gerhard Schröder.

What most likely triggered this war was Putin's ambition to stay in power, as Russia never actually recovered from the 2008 crisis, so he let Medvedev handle the popularity hit associated with the first years post that.

Russian agents are sabotaging European businesses as we speak - there's no getting back to whatever level of friendly relations there were before the invasion.


Gerhard Schröder was no planted agent, he acted out of a belief in what he did. The german left have always had a strong connection to russia.

I live in northeast Germany and the cost of living increase and industrial cost of the nord stream & oil pipeline changeover has been immense.

I am not advocating a "friendly" relationship w russia but it's also wrong to over simplify the relationships. The nord stream sabotage was a HUGE gut punch for former east german states.


And yet NATO expands most readily when Russia invades another country. I wonder why nations might want in that alliance? You're just repeating Russia's justifications for their actions, which have never made sense.

NATO expansion was because countries begged to become members of NATO, out of fear of Russia invading them. The only reason Russia minds NATO expansion is that it prevents them from starting easy wars.

You forgot the bio weapon labs! /s

> I think EU should go back to build good relationships with Russia

Kinda hard with someone trying to expand, starting wars and engaging with genocide. Literally.

Being accommodating to Russia is how we got here.


> I think EU should go back to build good relationships with Russia

This is horribly naïve at best. You're suggesting building good relationships with a country waging a war of aggression with a neighbour it shares with the EU. A country that's committing genocide against that neighbour. A country that has been rather consistently stepping up its attacks against European infrastructure over the past several years.

I'm not saying that you are an idiot. But I am saying that you would have to be an idiot to sincerely believe what you just said.




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