What is copy-pasta here? All these facts about Obama and his wars are known to the world.
Or do Americans have wool on their eyes when it comes to their politicians' wrongdoings?
It is my bad that I wrote Geneva instead of Oslo. But that typo/errata doesn't change the facts about Obama or Trump.
How can you claim it to be zero relevance when the discussion is about incumbent US President not deserving the Nobel Peace Prize, when it is a fact that the US President he replaced earlier certainly didn't deserve either (for doing wars through 2 consecutive tenures)?
Or are you accustomed to making excuses for the most powerful men in the world, using their privilege to get or expect Nobel Peace Prize like it is some cotton candy?
Although, cotton candy might have more relevance than the Nobel Peace Prize, IMHO.
Considering that some of the previous recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize are of dubious distinction:
** By your "Cheney did wars that Obama didn't stop" yardstick, Henry Kissinger should also be squarely blamed, though he himself got the Nobel Peace Prize. (Hmmm, what's up with such warmongers getting Nobel Peace Prize?!)
Of course, Kissinger didn’t start the Vietnam war, but he played a major role in how it was conducted and ended. He helped design the policy of “Vietnamization” (gradual U.S. withdrawal while training South Vietnamese forces). He was involved in secret bombing campaigns in Cambodia and Laos, which are among the most controversial aspects of U.S. policy.
** Aung Sang Suu Kyu supported military genocides on some communities, though she spent most of her life in jail or house-arrest and was a crusader for democracy (unfortunately she appears to have died, as her son and others claim she's missing from last few years after her government was overthrown by a military junta coup and she was jailed).
** Mahatma Gandhi was a wife-beating paedophile, he was responsible for Partition of India and genocides on Hindus (due to his open support for Jinnah who unleashed those genocides), his actions caused millions of Indians to suffer for years under brutal British enslavement.
But I see you are making excuses for the US Presidents not being able to stop wars their country started or involved in.
So you think Bush Jr. and Obama were puppets of Dick Cheney? So is your vice president running your country, not the President? Then why have that seemingly irrelevant position of President at the White House?
Is that your excuse now to ignore Trump's wrongdoings? (He won't get the Nobel Peace Prize, for sure, but he'll try to buy it or coerce it, he doesn't seem to care what the world thinks of him, because he knows Americans think highly of him, because they elected him twice (the second time he took oath for the highest office, was AFTER he was convicted of felony))!
Even I am finding this all ridiculous to type out, it is even more frustrating that this is all real history, and (like it is wont to do) history seems to be repeating itself: The most powerful men in the world doing wars/invasions, while chasing after Nobel Peace Prize.
Please learn to read and comprehend. I have rebutted both of your illogical arguments.
YOU SAID>This is run of the mill copypasta about Obama's Nobel Prize and has zero relevance to whether or not Trump not getting the award is casus belli against a completely different country.
It is indeed relevant, and I have already given you solid examples to show that US Presidents need no excuse to wage wars. Two US Presidents (Obama and Trump) have both been shameless about the Nobel Peace Prize (Obama went and accepted AFTER signing off on wars. Trump has started wars AFTER he didn't get Nobel Peace Price despite his attempts at playing peacemaker).
YOU SAID>However I am interested to hear your plan for Obama ending the wars that Cheney dumped on him.
If you want to illogically claim that a Vice President of USA is responsible for wars, rather than its President, I will take it as your obvious athempt to deviate the attention away from the wars "signed off" by the President, and I would like to remind you that the President of the United States holds the title of Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. military.
The buck stops there... With the President of the USA. Irrespective of who is the Vice President and what has been done prior to the person taking up the role as the President.
He (or she, if that ever happens) as the President of USA, has the unassailable right and power to stop the country's involvement in any war where the nation's military may be involved, and certainly so, if it is already leading a war.
And even if we take your argument that Cheney dumped wars on Obama, then Obama knew about it on the first day of taking oath as President of the United States of America!
So why did Obama go and personally collect the Nobel Peace Prize the next year, when he knew he has not shut down any wars, and when he had in fact, already signed off on further escalations of the existing wars and started more conflicts?
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Let my little assistant help you out with the homework you ought to have done on this topic.
Below is a timeline cross-reference of Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize (2009) and U.S. wars / major military actions.
Summary: It is overwhelmingly likely (and effectively certain) that Obama knew he was overseeing active wars and new military escalations before he went to collect the Nobel Peace Prize.
> I am interested to hear your plan for Obama ending the wars that Cheney dumped on him.
Are you just trying to run out this clock with trying to relitigate who was ultimately responsible for Iraq and Afghanistan? I am guessing you have no answer because you can just barf copypasta about warmongering US presidents.
Or do Americans have wool on their eyes when it comes to their politicians' wrongdoings?
It is my bad that I wrote Geneva instead of Oslo. But that typo/errata doesn't change the facts about Obama or Trump.
How can you claim it to be zero relevance when the discussion is about incumbent US President not deserving the Nobel Peace Prize, when it is a fact that the US President he replaced earlier certainly didn't deserve either (for doing wars through 2 consecutive tenures)?
Or are you accustomed to making excuses for the most powerful men in the world, using their privilege to get or expect Nobel Peace Prize like it is some cotton candy?
Although, cotton candy might have more relevance than the Nobel Peace Prize, IMHO.
Considering that some of the previous recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize are of dubious distinction:
** By your "Cheney did wars that Obama didn't stop" yardstick, Henry Kissinger should also be squarely blamed, though he himself got the Nobel Peace Prize. (Hmmm, what's up with such warmongers getting Nobel Peace Prize?!) Of course, Kissinger didn’t start the Vietnam war, but he played a major role in how it was conducted and ended. He helped design the policy of “Vietnamization” (gradual U.S. withdrawal while training South Vietnamese forces). He was involved in secret bombing campaigns in Cambodia and Laos, which are among the most controversial aspects of U.S. policy. ** Aung Sang Suu Kyu supported military genocides on some communities, though she spent most of her life in jail or house-arrest and was a crusader for democracy (unfortunately she appears to have died, as her son and others claim she's missing from last few years after her government was overthrown by a military junta coup and she was jailed).
** Mahatma Gandhi was a wife-beating paedophile, he was responsible for Partition of India and genocides on Hindus (due to his open support for Jinnah who unleashed those genocides), his actions caused millions of Indians to suffer for years under brutal British enslavement.
But I see you are making excuses for the US Presidents not being able to stop wars their country started or involved in.
So you think Bush Jr. and Obama were puppets of Dick Cheney? So is your vice president running your country, not the President? Then why have that seemingly irrelevant position of President at the White House?
Is that your excuse now to ignore Trump's wrongdoings? (He won't get the Nobel Peace Prize, for sure, but he'll try to buy it or coerce it, he doesn't seem to care what the world thinks of him, because he knows Americans think highly of him, because they elected him twice (the second time he took oath for the highest office, was AFTER he was convicted of felony))!
Even I am finding this all ridiculous to type out, it is even more frustrating that this is all real history, and (like it is wont to do) history seems to be repeating itself: The most powerful men in the world doing wars/invasions, while chasing after Nobel Peace Prize.