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I’m on record saying mistral needs 50B euros asap; I’ll admit this was wrong, they need more sooner


Doesn’t help unless they get GPUs or equivalent to train.


With enough money this problem is solvable. GPUs alone are only a fraction of a frontier model.


Im really not convinced that can be solved with money alone. China has the money and infrastructure, they don’t have the chips. Europe doesn’t have the infrastructure or the money but may have some chips


What chips does Europe have?


STM32


They're going to run AI training and inference on a 32 bit microcontroller?


That's the joke


Europe has ASML


But the actually valuable EUV light source technology is developed by Cymer in California. Cymer was only permitted to be acquired by ASML in 2014 under a strict technology sharing and export agreement with US government.

It's why ASML can't just sell the machines to whomever they want. It's largely American tech inside them.


oh so they should team up


Musk tried, no?


To do what exactly? They have been nothing but EU funds leech and corporiders.

Every single model is (and always was) behind anything from China.

I wish Europe could find one company that can put us on the map but Mistral’s not it. They have repeatedly shown that extra funding doesn’t magically transfer to better models.


> Every single model is (and always was) behind anything from China.

My guess is, that Mistral plays fair and doesn't try to extract data from US models, while Chinese companies are not.




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